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No! It's not over! [personal profile] wanted_a_pony asks: Are there fandom(s) for which you *only* enjoy fanworks, but you don't intend to (or actively dislike) the canon whatever-it-is? What is/are they?

This is a great question, and the answer is: Most of them.

Fandoms for which I genuinely like the source material, and would enjoy it and seek it out whether there were fanworks or not: Due South. The Discworld books and Good Omens. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Jeeves and Wooster (stories). The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings (novels). Horatio Hornblower (stories and novels). Georgette Heyer novels. Pixar movies. John Hughes movies. MASH.

Fandoms where the source material is entertaining, but fanworks add something significant to my engagement with it: Sherlock Holmes (storles and novels) and most of the Holmes movies/series1. Most any Disney cartoon (except Lilo & Stitch, which is perfect unto itself, perfect, I tell you2).

Fandoms where I really can't take the source material very seriously except as a kit that fans will take apart and reassemble into something actually worth our time: Marvel Cinematic Universe. James Bond movies. Harry Potter (both novels and movies). Angel (TV series). Star Trek (all series and all movies, including reboot). Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis. Star Wars (original trilogy, The Force Awakens, and Rogue One). The Losers, the Magnificent Seven remake, and other such festivals of beefcake. Supernatural. Teen Wolf. X-Men. Inception. The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings (movies).

Fandoms where the source material is barely tolerable and redeemed only by the fanworks: Leverage. Star Wars (prequels). Merlin. And please forgive me, but: The Sentinel.


1Exception: The Ritchie movies. Beautiful as they are, I cannot enjoy these movies, and I cannot enjoy any fanworks based on them, because the relationship between Holmes and Watson is so full of resentment and hard feelings, and that relationship is really the main thing for me.

2Not that I wouldn't enjoy any Jumba/Pleakley fanworks you wanted to point me at.


How would your list be different from mine? This was a fascinating exercise.

And I'll be out of wifi range till Tuesday, but y'all know you can ask me a question anytime.
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
Yeah, I skipped a day; I spent the evening at both a City Council meeting and an overlong school concert. (I feel sorry for the orchestra kids; by the time it's their turn, everybody's looking at their watches.)

[personal profile] kass asks: what fannish character is bringing you the most joy right now?

I'm ... not feeling the fannish joy right now.

Bits of it are there. There's a stage in every book I read, every movie I see, where I'm thinking, "Oh, hey, this person could be matched with that person ... this universe could cross over with that other universe." But somehow it doesn't catch.

I think there are two things going on:

1. The source media themselves are more fanfic-savvy now, and so nothing totally loses control of its subtext the way it used to in the old days.

I can't imagine anybody making entertainment in 2016 without being aware that viewers/readers will consider the possibility that characters are attracted to one another even if you didn't write them to be attracted to one another -- even if they are [gasp] the same gender. You'd have to be living under a rock on another planet to have missed that development.

And of course to the extent that this gets us actual non-heterosexual characters that's a great thing, though that part is not moving along quite as briskly as I would like.

But -- like, we're now getting classic Trek out of the library and watching it. And nothing equals the accidental subtext-fest that was classic Trek. I can see where the people who were slashing classic Trek could feel like they were totally stealing the archetypes and totally expressing the true nature of the show at the same time. There's nothing like that now.

2. I'm not interacting enough with fans (a situation that's unlikely to change until my nest goes empty next fall), and it's just no fun to be fannish alone.


Go here to add your own question.

The questions thus far are under here. )
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[personal profile] cesperanza asks: what are the things that get you to write, fannishly? Have you been able to articulate the circumstances that get you from passive to active fannishness about a particular source?

I really love this question, because when I began giving it some thought, the answer was not at all what I expected it to be.

Read more... )

Also

Mar. 9th, 2014 07:29 pm
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
I'm so enmeshed in fandom that it took several hours before it occurred to me that there was anything odd about making the argument, at the dinner table, that whether or not tentacle sex is inappropriate for teenagers is entirely dependent on context.
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[personal profile] norah prompts: Is your kid aware of the extent of your fannish involvement? How have you two navigated that? Is she fannish, and how? What about your partner?

For a while I worried about the kidlet accidentally intersecting with the smutty side of my fannish life, but she's fourteen now, so I'm not worried about it any more. I was reading plenty of smut when I was fourteen, most of it much less life-affirming than fanfiction.

I mean, I think I later discovered that [personal profile] calico was about fourteen the first time I sent her a feedback e-mail that said, "That story you wrote was incredibly sexy!"

Read more... )
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[personal profile] james prompts: if you could design your own television series, what would it be like? Premise, actors, story arcs, etc!

This is an amazing prompt, and I'm so tired that I'm probably not going to do it justice. In fact, I find the metaphorical blank white sheet of paper kind of intimidating. So I'm going to build a series out of pieces of other series, how's that?

Read more... ) So there you have it. Buffy + Mary Poppins + Star Trek: Voyager + The Losers. Boldly go and dance, Scoobies.
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[personal profile] jelazakazone prompts: First fandom. What got you excited and revved up about it? Were you surprised to find yourself falling into fandom?

Still a few spots left to ask a question!

The zine I mentioned yesterday was a "Star Trek: The Next Generation" zine, and TNG was the first show that ever inspired me to go looking online for slash. I didn't find much, though -- I was interested in Data/Geordi, which was all but nonexistent. (I fondly remember some lovely Picard/Q, though.)

My first true fandom -- the first fandom for which I joined mailing lists and bookmarked archives and fangirled authors -- was "Star Trek: Voyager." I read many pairings indiscriminately, het and slash and femslash, but in my heart I was a Paris/Kim girl.

The most amazing thing for me was discovering that I wasn't the only person who took her favorite characters around in her head with her all the time, and talked to them, and spun out more stories for them -- I hadn't made up that hobby -- there were more of us -- and we could share!

I take for granted, now, that when I fall in love with characters, I can come here and find them again. I ought not to do that. When I'm in that awful position of No More Canon, Canon All Used Up; when the canon is clumsy or simplistic or just plain wrong; when the canon is giving me insipid romances that bear no resemblance to reality plus a friendship that has all the elements of a really great romance except for the actual romance ... well, I ought not to take for granted that the characters can have more life, or a better life, here.

(That makes them sound like immigrants. "Give me your tired, your poor, your chiseled cheekbones yearning to rub up against other chiseled cheekbones ...")

All of us

Apr. 30th, 2013 07:55 pm
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[personal profile] blnchflr pointed out to me that Transfigurations is ten years old this month. (I don't think I've ever stuck with any other hobby for ten years, despite all those piano lessons.)

At this distance, the main thing I see in the story is a triumph of collaboration. The kind of shared creation that goes on in fandom is something I've never seen anywhere else, and it's unspeakably precious.
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
Y'all, I had the most perfectly, hilariously fannish dream, and I was so disappointed to wake up and discover it wasn't real!

See, there were these books.

The first one was a WWII love story between two soldiers. (Somewhat similar to BJ and Hawkeye from "M.A.S.H." Somewhat similar to Steve and Bucky. No superpowers, though.) It was what we used to call by the inelegant name "fuckfest," meaning there were lots of sex scenes, and each one broke another barrier and made them closer and closer, while they evaded discovery and all that it would have entailed, until at last the Bucky figure was discharged first and went home, at which point (you see this coming) the Steve figure was reported killed.

The second one picked up some years later. The Bucky character had returned to the U.S. He owned a restaurant, and he was married; the marriage had originally been a beard for him and something equally depressing for his wife, but by the time the book began, it was neither loveless nor sexless.

Then (you see this coming), the Steve character reappeared. And he fell in love with the wife. And there was a long period of angst and the establishment of three separate couples, until she instituted a happy plural marriage and they all three lived happily ever after.

These were physical books, but they were slash stories, written by one of us. They weren't trying to transcend the genre or anything; they were just topshelf slash stories. The stories weren't available online for some reason, and the books were hard to find, but I had both of them and was very happy about it.

And then! I was in a used bookstore and I found a copy of a novella that fitted in between them, that told the story of the marriage from its beginnings in negotiated loneliness into its establishment as a peculiar sort of love match! I was so excited! I was just getting ready to come home and read it!

And, damn it, I woke up and it wasn't real!
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
I was thinking about the omega male thing in slash stories -- have you seen this? Where a male character will be written as having an estrus cycle, having a self-lubricating orifice, and being able to get pregnant? I've never seen it anywhere but Inception fandom, but for all I know, it's all over the place.

And the first time I saw it, I thought, "Hey, why not just make Arthur a woman? Or write a story about Ariadne?"

And then I thought, "There are stories about always-female Arthur, and stories about Ariadne. I don't read either of them. On the other hand, I'm not completely nuts about the omega-male thing, but I am reading this."

So there's something in particular about writing a story that is basically about the female sexual response, but writing it using the body of a male character. And I have a theory.

See, bonding with female characters is hard.

Seriously, when I watch something with a woman in it, I watch it with a bit of dread. (Even a movie, where there isn't a lot of time for dread.) I still spend the whole time with an underlying dread about what's going to be done to the woman. Not what the other characters are going to do to her -- what the creators are going to do to her.

Maybe they'll fridge her. Or someone will rape her. Or maybe it will be less violent -- they'll give her a new boyfriend or a new baby and she'll completely lose her agency, if not her entire sense of self. Or they'll decide she needs to be absorbed in her looks to the exclusion of everything else (this is often done via a makeover scene).

If she's not a major enough character to merit this sort of reduction -- if she's mostly in the background -- then maybe all that will happen is that the show will cruelly mock her for being attractive, or for being unattractive, or for having sex, or for not having sex.

Now, I like women. And I find them sexy. And so you'd think I could overcome all this to enjoy reading stories about women having sex, right? At least if they're written in fandom, where I can trust the writers?

But you know that thing where women do worse on standardized tests when they're reminded that they're women? To be honest, after all these years of consuming mass-produced entertainment, I feel this sense of narrative dread even when I'm reading original characters written by writers I trust. It's Pavlovian. I feel fear for her as soon as I'm reminded that she's a woman.

So if I have the vague erotic desire to read about the female sexual response, but I don't want it contaminated by that dread? Maybe it's not surprising to find myself reading about men who have sex like women.






[edited to add: maybe I ought to tell y'all what I was reading that got me thinking about this? It was this not-very-dom-subby Inception story by Recrudescence, and it's not my kink but I enjoyed it just the same.]

Sanctuary

Jul. 28th, 2011 05:06 pm
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
Hi, people fleeing LJ! If I know you over there, and you're now planning to post only to DW or to post substantially the same content in both places (i.e. if I can follow you on DW instead of on LJ), can you drop me a comment?

Hi, people who would like to be fleeing LJ! I have invite codes! Please comment if you use one.

Read more... )

What.

Aug. 2nd, 2010 09:58 pm
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Sherlock Holmes with violin)
So I came home from vacation and started to catch up on dw, and at first I was thinking, wow, everybody's getting really chummy with Holmes and all, calling him by his first name. Then I realized: No, what happened was I went away for a week and when I came back there was an entirely new fandom that I've never heard of. How does this happen? And how do I get in on it??

Previews

Dec. 28th, 2009 03:39 pm
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (What have you done?)
Went to see Sherlock Holmes today (about which yay and squee, of course), but when I was really missing fannish companionship was during the previews.

First "The Sorcerer's Apprentice," and somebody please, please tell me that that kid is older than 17, because the preview slashes itself.

And then "Iron Man 2," which just confirms what I have long believed about Marvel: They're not really making entertainment; they're slyly diagnosing the unacknowledged fetishes of rightish Americans.

First we have a little clip of Tony Stark being rather fey while he recites lines that make Republicans have to adjust their trousers ("You want my property? You can't have it. But I have successfully privatized world peace!") -- and then he's down and being stalked by a long-haired guy ... with an accent that sounds Mexican to me, though I see in IMDb that he's got a Russian name, but, anyway, clearly an immigrant of some sort ... with, um, flaming whips. Really, all we need is some prison sodomy and some autoerotic asphyxiation and the talk-radio fantasy world will be complete.
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These are not my beautiful fandoms, but last night I dreamed a crossover romance between Ianto Jones and Adam Lambert.

The romantic complication was that they met in Discworld during some great religious celebration, and due to the large amounts of religious adoration that were in the air during this time, people were subject to something called "prayover," in which their emotions were artificially heightened by getting caught in the crossfire of other people's prayers.

Now, Ianto knew he was immune to this effect because of the years he spent studying with the History Monks in the Ramtops. But he was fairly sure that anything Adam might feel was the artificial result of the prayover, so he was resisting, though the story held promise of eventual defeat and consequent angst.
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Snape)
Today I was thinking about Benton Fraser, Severus Snape, and Sherlock Holmes.

I am kinked so hard for male characters like these guys -- the ones who ought to have "Serious Intimacy Problems" tattooed on their forehead as a warning to others, the ones who might be steamy volcanoes of untapped passion or might be cold fish through and through -- that I evaluate potential fandoms based on whether any of the guys in them are emotionally unavailable enough to suit me.

I'm so very lucky that I'm not attracted to the same kind of guys in real life as in fiction.
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Caaaaaake)
Most people name their LJ filters in a pretty straightforward way: by fandom, say, or one for communities and another for individuals. But some people get creative.

I myself have one filter called "art_only" and another called "commsrecs," but the rest of the journals I read are broken up in a way that makes sense only to me, and named accordingly.

If someone comes to my site from an LJ filter, I can see the name of the filter in my stat counter. So I've made a collection of the ones that amuse me:

Read more... )
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
I spent all my spare time last night and this afternoon on [livejournal.com profile] dorrie6's anonymous love meme; I'm finding it surprisingly addictive. Yet another way in which fandom is superior to work.

Work has annual performance reviews. Fandom has anonymous love memes.

Work has pictures and comic strips thumbtacked to the cubicle wall. Fandom has icons and customizable layouts.

At work, sometimes you bring your co-workers cookies. In fandom, sometimes you bring your co-workers porn.

Work has paychecks. Fandom has feedback.

Work has those two chicks from Marketing. Fandom has fandom_wank.

Work has fire drills. Fandom has kerfuffles.

Work has newsletters. Fandom has ... newsletters. (But you can get from there to porn.)

Work has memos. Fandom has memes.

Meme rec

Dec. 7th, 2006 10:16 pm
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Default)
Now this is cool: [livejournal.com profile] dorrie6 is doing a love meme, except that instead of asking for love for yourself, you can ask for it for your friends. Go here.
resonant: Brian from The Breakfast Club: Demented and sad, but social (Faster)
1. Love memes (like the one going on at [livejournal.com profile] queenofthorns right now) are much easier these days now that LJ introduced its little thumbtack icon! You can track the entire discussion (to see if anyone you know comments asking for love), or you can track your anonymous comment (so you can see if the person replies to it). It's very cool.

2. Some of the discussion on [livejournal.com profile] helenish's Take Clothes Off As Directed seems to be implying that it's a brand-new (and unfair) thing to comment on/criticize a piece of literature by writing another piece of literature in response to it.

But this sort of conversation between two literary works is at least as old as when Christopher Marlowe wrote The Passionate Shepherd to His Love ("Come live with me and be my love/And we will all the pleasures prove") and Sir Walter Raleigh replied with The Nymph's Reply to the Shepherd ("If all the world and love were young/And truth on every shepherd's tongue ...").

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