resonant: Ray Kowalski (Due South) (Genius)
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I can think of three songs about abortions from the man's point of view -- Del Amitri's "Driving With the Brakes On," Ben Folds Five's "Brick," and Black Lab's "Wash It Away" (which ironically was one of the songs I used for my sound-based variation of Lamaze, and thus was in my head for most of the time I was in labor).

But I can't think of a single one from the woman's point of view. Are there any?

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Date: 9/27/05 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
"Lost Woman Song (http://www.danah.org/Ani/First/LostWomanSong.html)" by Ani DiFranco -- and "Tiptoe (http://www.danah.org/Ani/NotAPrettyGirl/Tiptoe.html)" by the same. The former a very serious and somber song, and the latter a not very serious and somber spoken word piece.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:00 pm (UTC)

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Date: 9/27/05 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skuf.livejournal.com
This one came to me immediately - usually I'm blank when people ask questions like this:

Ani Difranco's "Tiptoe" (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/anidifranco/tiptoe.html) - and I can't imagine there aren't many more!

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Date: 9/27/05 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonhero.livejournal.com
My Special Child by Sinead O'Connor
The Lost Woman Song by Ani DiFranco
The Child is Gone by Fiona Apple (arguably about a miscarriage, but could be abortion, too)
Dangerous Place by Julie Miller


Those are a few off the top of my head. I feel like I'm forgetting some, but those are the ones I recall right now. :)

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Date: 9/27/05 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skuf.livejournal.com
Wow, people are fast :o) !

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Date: 9/27/05 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skuf.livejournal.com
Wow, you don't think it's serious? I'm floored.


Shall stop spamming now, [livejournal.com profile] resonant8.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
Tiptoe?

The subject matter is serious, but it's certainly not as downbeat as "Lost Woman Song". One is an intense and emotional reliving and the other begins with her laughing, and is more of a "this is life, gee sometimes it sucks" rumination.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant8.livejournal.com
Hey, you. Did you get my e-mail where I was turning cartwheels about the books? (Not that I'm rushing you; just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost in the ether, because my mother would be terribly disappointed with me if I didn't write my thank-you notes.)

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Date: 9/27/05 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilprettykitty.livejournal.com
Red Rag Top by Tim McGraw

I know, a country song by a mainstream artist.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
Hee. I did! I am just having the fortnight from hell. I will write you back this week. :)

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Date: 9/27/05 07:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
Though it's uncertain, two of Fleetwood Mac's songs (both by Stevie Nicks) are considered by fans to be about abortion--'Sara' and 'Goodbye Baby'.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivier.livejournal.com
Isn't Sinead's Three Babies about abortion(s) too?

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Date: 9/27/05 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilprettykitty.livejournal.com
And I totally missed the part about looking for songs from a woman's perspective. Still, the Tim McGraw song literally made me stop in my tracks when i realized he was going there.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justacat.livejournal.com
There's a song by Everlast I've always liked called "What It's Like" - it's sung by a man, but it includes this verse:
Mary got pregnant from a kid named Tom who said he was in love
He said don't worry about a thing baby doll I'm the man you've been dreamin' of
But three months later he said he won't date her or return her call
And she sweared god damn if I find that man I'm cuttin' off his balls
And then she heads for the clinic and she gets some static walkin' through the doors
They call her a killer, and they call her a sinner, and they call her a whore


God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes
'Cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose


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Date: 9/27/05 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonhero.livejournal.com
It very well may be. I know that My Special Child was written after her own abortion, but I don't know about Three Babies. :)

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Date: 9/27/05 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant8.livejournal.com
I remember "Sara" vividly from high school, but I'd always thought it was a love song. Now that I look at the lyrics, I think you're probably right.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
there's a spanish shakira song called "se quiere, se mata". it's not so much from the girl's point of view as from both, or from a point outside them both. it introduces two characters named "braulio" and "dana" and tells a whole story ending with "before the neighbors or the family could find out you went to the doctor to get rid of the problem. your neighbor's at home having a nice shower and you're six feet under watching worms grow." i can't decide how i feel about it because i can't decide if it's intended to be judgmental or not; the chorus ends with "...for having brought one more inhabitant into this poor city where what isn't wanted is killed."

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Date: 9/27/05 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzcalypso.livejournal.com
Quite a long time back--before Roe v Wade, I think--Loretta Lynn did a song called "pregnant again." It's not exactly about abortion, tho it presents a grim view of what it's like to be a poor woman who has no access to abortion (or even to birth control.)

Ah, yes, the good old days, when men were men and women were proppity.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kallistei.livejournal.com
Shasta (Carrie's Song) (http://www.lyricscafe.com/t/teng_vienna/020.htm) by Vienna Teng is about travelling for an abortion, and is from the woman's point of view.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halimede.livejournal.com
Unbeschreiblich Weiblich (http://genevieve-cory.150m.com/music/unbeschreiblich.html) by Nina Hagen, punk queen. Big hit, so big and well known I never considered that it probably wouldn't be in English speaking realms. Duh. :)

I can't translate the whole thing, because my German isn't good enough, but the first verse says something like 'I was pregnant, I had to puke' and the second begins with: 'when it was over, I had to puke'. The last two lines don't translate very well, but I'll translate them, as the last two words also form the title:

And before the first child's crying, I have to free myself first.
Instantly I feel indescribably feminine.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilprettykitty.livejournal.com
I think she had a song called Pill too.

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Date: 9/27/05 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant8.livejournal.com
Yeah, kind of surprising -- was it a single? It's hard to imagine country stations around here playing it.

Sounds less whiny than some of the guy songs, too.

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Date: 9/27/05 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzcalypso.livejournal.com
The Singing Nun did a song celebrating the pill... before the church decided that giving women that much control over their own bodies was a big terrible sin. (The S Nun eventually left the church to cohabit with another ex-nun, but she made no $ from her hit song because she'd had to sign the royalties over to the church. The screw that keeps on screwing.)

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Date: 9/27/05 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilprettykitty.livejournal.com
It was a single! Apparently there was a bit of controversy about it but nothing huge that I ever saw.

Yeah, it was just a verse in a song about teenagers in love, handled very deftly I felt.

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Date: 9/27/05 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
The Stranger (http://www.thechicagoloop.net/audiography/Stranger.mp3) by Kat Eggleston. His hands are gentle, his hands are clean....

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Date: 9/27/05 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ecaterin.livejournal.com
wow. shivers. thanks for posting that.

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Date: 9/27/05 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lamb's Zero is a song about losing a child, I thought through miscarriage, but it could be about abortion, depending on your point-of-view

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Date: 9/27/05 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cheshyre
In a recent interview with the Dresden Dolls, Amanda Palmer mentioned a song about a back-alley abortion called "Mandy goes to med school"

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Date: 9/27/05 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabularasa.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it mentioned above, but Lauryn Hill's "For Zion." I don't know if it fits what you're looking for, because it's a song about an abortion that DIDN'T happen.

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Date: 9/28/05 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boniblithe.livejournal.com
Ah you beat me to it :)

Saw her perform in NYC and she called it a "red state song", I was a bit taken aback by that, as I think it has nothing to do with "red state" or "blue state" and everything to do with a state of mind.

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Date: 9/28/05 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alunatic.livejournal.com
"Breathe (2AM)" by Anna Nalick.

2 am and she calls me 'cause I'm still awake
"Can you help me unravel my latest mistake?
I don't love him. Winter just wasn't my season."
Yeah we walk through the door so accusing their eyes
Like they have any right at all to criticize
Hypocrites, you're all here for the very same reason.

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Date: 9/28/05 02:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] daughtershade.livejournal.com
Can I just say that I hate that Brick song? It has nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with Ben Folds being a local artist when I was in college, so all the radio stations practically played that song on a loop. I can quote you the lyrics wrote right now, and I never bought the album. He used to come into my comic shop until he heard the guys ragging on the song (because it was played endlessly). He didn't come back after that. They didn't even realize it was him till like days later. I think he's a good musician, but I still can't stand that song. :D

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Date: 9/29/05 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant8.livejournal.com
Wow -- I wasn't familiar with her, but it's a really interesting song.

I guess it's not really the guys' fault that their songs mostly seem to be about how this thing happens, and doesn't it suck, while the women's songs pretty much have to be about how this thing is chosen.

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Date: 9/29/05 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Wow -- I wasn't familiar with her, but it's a really interesting song.

Kat has a lovely voice and some really interesting songs. If you want more of her stuff, let me know. ;)

And yeah - the different ingrained perceptions of the situation itself... well, I'm sure lots of papers have been written.

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Date: 10/4/05 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehomet.livejournal.com
AFAIK it's about the three terminations she had, yeah.

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