Rant: Identify yourselves!
Dec. 19th, 2003 02:29 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Ooh, the LJ Santa left me six months of paid time! Thanks, whoever you are.
I seriously doubt that rants are what you wanted me to use this space for, but here's one:
Writers. Writers who post your fiction on your own web pages:
Why the hell would you put put up a story that doesn't have your name and your e-mail address on it?
I can't tell you how many times I've followed a link and found myself reading a terrific story by ... um, well, I'm not sure who it's by. Often there's not even a link back to the home page. Sometimes I can erase stuff out of the URL and climb back up to the top that way, but other times, it doesn't work.
Also, writers? Be aware that some of us will copy your story into a word processor document so that we can savor it again later. Which means that if your title, your byline, or your e-mail address is a graphic, or exists only in the html header and not in the story itself, it won't come through. And then lame people like me will read your story for the third time and go, "You know, I really should send some feedback to ... um ... whoever it was who wrote this story. If I could remember where I found it."
All I want for Christmas is a more orderly world. And some Hershey kisses.
I seriously doubt that rants are what you wanted me to use this space for, but here's one:
Writers. Writers who post your fiction on your own web pages:
Why the hell would you put put up a story that doesn't have your name and your e-mail address on it?
I can't tell you how many times I've followed a link and found myself reading a terrific story by ... um, well, I'm not sure who it's by. Often there's not even a link back to the home page. Sometimes I can erase stuff out of the URL and climb back up to the top that way, but other times, it doesn't work.
Also, writers? Be aware that some of us will copy your story into a word processor document so that we can savor it again later. Which means that if your title, your byline, or your e-mail address is a graphic, or exists only in the html header and not in the story itself, it won't come through. And then lame people like me will read your story for the third time and go, "You know, I really should send some feedback to ... um ... whoever it was who wrote this story. If I could remember where I found it."
All I want for Christmas is a more orderly world. And some Hershey kisses.
(no subject)
Date: 12/19/03 12:38 pm (UTC)I pester/nag/hold forth upon this subject with my meteorologistas roughly once a month. We run a federal government website. There are certain basic requirements that we're supposed to meet. Furthermore, it's just good sense. Put your names on your papers, boys and girls. Give your users/visitors/readers a way to get in touch with you and tell you how wonderful you are.
*sigh*
(no subject)
Date: 12/19/03 12:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 12/19/03 12:50 pm (UTC)And of course if you only have a mailto tag ('Email Mary Crawford') and not the actual email address in the text, the addy won't show up either (unless the word processor is HTML-enabled). Duh.
/slaps forehead/
Thanks for the reminder.
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Date: 12/21/03 02:36 am (UTC)I think I'll start including dates and URLs. Why the hell not, if someone finds it useful :-)
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Date: 1/9/04 09:15 am (UTC)Damn. Hoist on my own petard.
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Date: 12/19/03 02:20 pm (UTC)Gahh, I hate that. And, believe it or not, it doesn't stop with fanfiction--it extends into the academic world. I can't tell you how many times I've had professors handing back graded work and saying "One for John, one for Jane, one for Melissa . . . And here's one without a name on it!" (Not that I'm entirely innocent; I kept forgetting to put my name on my Russian homework, and it drove the professor nuts.)
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Date: 12/19/03 04:22 pm (UTC)Because I'm a lazy shit and just cut-and-pasted it from my LJ?
Hmm. That semmed a much better answer when it was in my head.
(That sound you hear is me going "oh, yeah, people might want to send me feedback" under my breath and trying not to look stupid.)
Clearly -- by which I mean, 'perhaps' -- fandom needs a standardized fic archive layout/header thingy*. [Fear my technical terminology!] But: what would you -- the non-specific you; one; we -- want in it? Title, Author, Review link (mailto link, full email, msgboard link, lj link, whatever) Page Reference (where the story was), Disclaimer, Copyright statement...? (By which point the headers might actually be longer than the fic.)
There are way too many parenthetical comments in this comment.
(I'll shut up now.)
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Date: 12/20/03 05:09 pm (UTC)I swear when I first started reading, most authors did use headers. This was only two or three years ago, but the use of them have dropped significantly. I think they've depreciated because so many writers use their LJs now, and personal websites are becoming more and more popular/accessable.
Title:
Author:
Rating:
Distribution:
Disclaimer:
Were the main ones. Author usually contained a name and email address. Distribution often said something like "if you want it, take it" or "email me for permission", but I always thought it should also contain the authors prefered url too.
Common additions also include Pairing, Spoilers, and Date Completed.
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Date: 12/19/03 04:38 pm (UTC)Okay, so the email link doesn't give the actual email address (just my name), but my name is on every story, as is the title and the date of posting. Plus? Down at the bottom are links to my home page.
Do I get at least a B+ in "Making Res Happy 101?"
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Date: 1/9/04 09:18 am (UTC)You get an A+ just for caring! And another A+ for stories.
Wandering in via bonibaru
Date: 12/19/03 05:58 pm (UTC)reposting because I screwed up the subject line...
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Date: 12/19/03 06:38 pm (UTC)Why the hell would you put put up a story that doesn't have your name and your e-mail address on it?
Huh.
My email address is, in fact, on every page under the "Contact" link but it always seems just a shade more egotistical than I'm ready to admit to, to have my name on every single page and every single story. I guess when I began, I didn't expect to be linked (or to have 200 stories) from outside, so *of course* someone visiting would have seen the front page which is All About Me ::goes to look at front page:: well, it *was* All About Me at some point. Now my name's not even on there. Huh.
I will have to rethink that, at least.
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Date: 12/21/03 01:12 am (UTC)One tip if you've copied a story to your hard disc and don't know who wrote it: run a sentence or two through search engines. It's a hassle, but if you're *really* frustrated about not being able to feedback it might be worth it.
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Date: 12/21/03 02:09 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 12/22/03 12:33 pm (UTC)I hereby resolve to mend my ways and add the header info to my templates.
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Date: 12/23/03 08:25 pm (UTC)... which must mean you're not yelling at me.
[wanders off]
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Date: 12/28/03 06:03 pm (UTC)Why the hell would you put put up a story that doesn't have your name and your e-mail address on it?
'Cos we're smug in the knowledge that we do have a link back to our main page on every single story, and assume our readers are smart enough to find it...?
Wrong answer, I know. *g*
Actually, I am in favor of headings for the ornery reason that I don't believe in "gateway" pages -- if you put all your warnings and spoilers and ratings and whatnot on one page, and then bitch because people don't READ THE WARNING PAGE GODDAMMIT -- well, call me an iconoclast, but I always thought the point of the WWW was that you can link to whatever is out there.... Whoops, how'd this soapbox get in here?
Which doesn't prevent my being lazy. Anyway, since a weird little plagiarism incident awhile back, I've taken to putting a copyright notice at the bottom of each of my stories, which feels less redundant and self-aggrandizing than a byline on every blessed drabble, and has the added if dubious benefit of scaring off the wussier would-be thieves.
I should really figure out a standard footer and put it on all of my stuff, though.