Smut that's not boring
Aug. 27th, 2004 10:14 pmHow about this? Instead of talking about smut I don't like, how about if I follow
lobelia321's example and talk about smut I do like?
In the comments on Lobelia's post, there's a thread on something that's dear to my heart: dirty talk.
I adore dirty talk, when it's done well. I don't like insults, and I've already ranted at length to various people about how I hate to read guys calling each other "slut," but aside from that, I love sex with a lot of talking.
I have a terrible weakness for people fervently whispering, "Anything."
I like questions. Does it feel good? Did you imagine this? Are you going to come?
I like commands. Show me. Suck me. Don't come. Somewhere way back in the depths of time I read a story that included the command, "Keep it hard for me," and I don't remember the story or the fandom, but god do I remember the line.
I like it when characters get so far gone that things come spilling out of their mouths that they'd never say in the cold light of day. It's a tightrope, writing that and making people believe it, especially for a reticent character like Snape. But when it works, it really works.
Oh, and begging. Do I ever love begging.
The writers whose dirty talk is most consistently to my taste are Te and Fabula Rasa, but I have lots of other favorites. (Some of this is going to be much less sexy out of context, of course. Which is why I'm linking to the stories.)
This is from Apologia by Te:
and later:
This is from Fabula Rasa's Cordelictus:
and from Dolo Delectare:
and later:
And short but oh so sweet, from Rats' Alley:
Ellen Fremedon's "Slowly But Exceeding Fine" has some lovely, articulate dirty talk:
and later:
Flora Hart does marvelous sexy incoherency. Here's something from her untitled birthday present for Mousapelli:
and this is from "Dangers and Opportunities:
And a lovely final bit of command from Thamiris' "Boxed":
It was such hard work re-reading all these stories in search of quotes. You should all be so grateful to me for the way I suffer for you. Or you should post your own favorite quotes.
In the comments on Lobelia's post, there's a thread on something that's dear to my heart: dirty talk.
I adore dirty talk, when it's done well. I don't like insults, and I've already ranted at length to various people about how I hate to read guys calling each other "slut," but aside from that, I love sex with a lot of talking.
I have a terrible weakness for people fervently whispering, "Anything."
I like questions. Does it feel good? Did you imagine this? Are you going to come?
I like commands. Show me. Suck me. Don't come. Somewhere way back in the depths of time I read a story that included the command, "Keep it hard for me," and I don't remember the story or the fandom, but god do I remember the line.
I like it when characters get so far gone that things come spilling out of their mouths that they'd never say in the cold light of day. It's a tightrope, writing that and making people believe it, especially for a reticent character like Snape. But when it works, it really works.
Oh, and begging. Do I ever love begging.
The writers whose dirty talk is most consistently to my taste are Te and Fabula Rasa, but I have lots of other favorites. (Some of this is going to be much less sexy out of context, of course. Which is why I'm linking to the stories.)
This is from Apologia by Te:
"Lex, I... how do you want me to touch you?"
"Clark. *Fuck*. Just..." Closes his eyes. "Just do whatever you *want*."
and later:
"Lex... Lex, you feel so good. Tell me how I can make this better for you?"
Breathless laugh. "I can't... I can't do that oh... God, please don't stop again --"
This is from Fabula Rasa's Cordelictus:
"I was just coming in here to apologise."
"Were you now. Let's see if I can't make you more comfortable." He snaked a hand between them and rubbed the hardness he found.
"Oh, fuck. . . Severus, stop, you're going to make me come. . . oh God please, just do it--"
and from Dolo Delectare:
"No. What you said before - you called me - before - my name - "
and later:
"Keep your eyes open, Snape. Let me watch you - let me see you come - yeah, that's it - oh yes - " His control slipped. "Severus. Can't - " He closed a clumsy hand around Snape's cock and squeezed.
"Ah - ah - " The orgasm wrenched Snape's spine, and curled him up to meet the arms that caught him, the mouth that whispered in his ear, prolonging his orgasm.
"So hot like this, you are so fucking hot, fuck yes, come for me, come on me, that's it, that's it, yes - "
And short but oh so sweet, from Rats' Alley:
"Please, I want to come with you in me."
Ellen Fremedon's "Slowly But Exceeding Fine" has some lovely, articulate dirty talk:
"This is what I fantasized about," he said at last, voice very low and even. "You, in my bed, well-fucked and wanting more, and knowing I had made you scream and I could do it again."
and later:
"Let me feel your tongue in my mouth again." I twisted my hands in Snape's hair and pulled his head down. "Let me feel you everywhere."
Flora Hart does marvelous sexy incoherency. Here's something from her untitled birthday present for Mousapelli:
“Oh, yes. Yes, just. Pull your. Oh. Can I, ah, can I stroke. Circe.”
and this is from "Dangers and Opportunities:
“Yes, okay. Please. Oh, and that. Is. Uh.” Harry trailed off and bit his lip again as Neville stroked with warm hands and returned to his former position.
And then, Harry surprised him. “Do you know how much I’ve wanted this? Do you?” His fingers curled convulsively in Neville’s peripheral vision. “How much I want to grab your hair and press into you and fuck your mouth? How much, oh, fuck that’s good, how much I’ve wanted, ah. To crawl into your bed? How much I’ve wanted you to slick up your cock and drive it into me? Will you? Later? Will you?”
Neville sucked hard, hollowing his cheeks, and looked up at Harry, who was looking down at him now, eyes dark and questioning. Neville nodded, pulled away, kept licking the underside of Harry’s cock as he answered, “Oh, I will.”
“Will you? Fuck me until I can’t breathe? Until I forget my name? I want you to,” Harry did grab Neville’s hair now, did push into his mouth, did thrust in hard, babbling. “Want you to. Want you to fuckin’ come in me. Want you. Oh.” and Neville sucked harder and swallowed and tasted the bitter-warm rush of come on the back of his tongue.
And a lovely final bit of command from Thamiris' "Boxed":
"Wait. Put it in my mouth. Please. Let me suck it. Then you can fuck me."
It was such hard work re-reading all these stories in search of quotes. You should all be so grateful to me for the way I suffer for you. Or you should post your own favorite quotes.
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Date: 8/27/04 08:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/27/04 09:31 pm (UTC)It's funny, the most charged phrase I ever read of talking in bed was from Shallott's Objectives, where Daniel: "whispered urgently, "Can I come in you?""
Four words that make me go. "whoa."
B
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Date: 8/28/04 09:39 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 08:43 am (UTC)But guys like that -- the Strong-Silent slash archetype, can do as much for me with one gasp-whispered "Yes!" as your Blair Sandburg types can do with an entire erotic sonnet with epigraph and footnotes.
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Date: 8/27/04 08:23 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/27/04 08:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 08:53 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/27/04 08:38 pm (UTC)All three are from Quill and Ink (http://www.glassesreflect.net/hother17/quillink.html) by Cybele
"How do you want me?" Harry asked breathlessly.
"Screaming," Snape responded coolly, walking toward him. "Begging for mercy," he added, sliding his robes off his shoulders, letting them fall to the floor. "Broken," he finished, standing before Harry in a white high-collared shirt and loose black trousers. Snape leaned down to lick the length of Harry’s neck.
Harry closed his eyes and gasped. "Oh god."
and
"Is this what you want, Potter?" Snape jeered, wiggling his hips.
"Yes, sir. Please," Harry whined.
I love the use of "sir" in dirty talk.
When he heard Snape growl, "Goddammit. Come. Now." Harry couldn't help but obey.
Like you said, commands.
Geez, I love dirty talk. Especially with Snape.
@anteco & @Resonant
Date: 8/28/04 12:18 am (UTC)And @Resonant here, too, to save making two entries: dirty talk is the best - I'm trying to convince
I don't have time to re-read my fave fics for quotes, but I'll just once again lament the loss of link to the H/D rim-fic, which was posted somewhere on lj not 5 weeks ago, that had much, much yummy talk in it... :o(
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 08:58 am (UTC)If Painless wants to do a dirty-talk list, I'll certainly volunteer to help her with research. Though it's kind of subjective -- whether you're listing stories with a high quantity of dirty talk or a high quality.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:00 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:48 pm (UTC)I'm really not sure it can be done in a comprehensive way, because "dirty talk" is just not an easily defined element, like "childhood" or "marriage" or whatever.
(no subject)
Date: 8/27/04 09:07 pm (UTC)I did start compiling a list of my favorite "sexy stuff that's said before the clothes even come off" quotes; I wish I could find that file now.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 08:59 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 09:06 am (UTC)Someone like Fraser is very tricky, both because his vocabulary is probably heavy on Latinate medical terms and light on the more lighthearted sorts of sexual slang, and because he often deploys his articulateness as a barrier to intimacy.
If Snape is half as precise, vivid and voluble in sex as he is in insults ... damn.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 04:59 pm (UTC)As for Snape, I couldn't agree more with your analysis, though again there is the matter of writing plausible dirty talk. Some of the things that fic writers make Snape say in bed have caused me more amusement than their attempts at comedy!
Slightly off-topic: how goes the writing on the Snape/Harry fic? I've been re-reading your email, and my (admittedly incoherent) thoughts will be with you by tomorrow.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:49 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/27/04 09:23 pm (UTC)Um, here you go.
*embarrassed that she knew exactly where to find this*
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 09:08 am (UTC)In the story I'm thinking of, I'm fairly certain that line was spoken by Tuvok, which will tell you something about (1) how long ago it was and also (2) how much characterization was being sacrificed for the hotness of it.
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Date: 8/27/04 11:55 pm (UTC)(you should know, incidentally, that i've been drinkign. why i chose to look at mr flist before i went to bed will have to rmeain a mystery. but it was
yuou talk about sexy incoherency, my lass, and are too modest to point out your own stuff, all of which is TOP NOTCH, but let me tell you what i kept coming back to over and over again in transfigurations (http://trickster.org/res/transfig.html):
it's damned hard to write Breathless without it sounding downright stupid, and i bet you don't agree (or possibly even realize) that you're AWFULLY good a t it, but you are. [nods]
[goes to bed]
(hero worship icon fr you!)
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 09:20 am (UTC)It's always fun when one person is relatively calm and articulate, and the other is on the verge of babble.
I don't write a lot of dirty talk -- at least I don't think I do. No, wait -- I write a lot of it in first draft and then cut it when I type the story in. It's very difficult to write my own kinks, because I don't know when to stop, and eventually it gets dull even to me.
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Date: 8/28/04 05:58 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 09:28 am (UTC)Now, I can see Luna being very talkative in bed, but in her own inimitably odd way. "Mm, yes, very nice. The dwarf chupacabras of Puerto Rico do something similar, did you know that? -- but of course the effect is totally different in mid-air. And they have tails. Did you ever wish you had a tail during sex? Another prehensile limb could come in very useful ..."
Hermione would be either very sexy or very annoying with the instructions. I've got a trio story in progress where she's saying to Ron, "Now bend your finger a little, yes, the book says he'll like that a lot."
Remus I see as rather repressed -- highly articulate but not much for asking for what he wants, and rather silent during sex. It would be a lovely challenge for someone to get him hot enough, and keep him that way long enough, that he'd get past his inhibitions and actually talk about what things feel like. He'd be an interesting subject for the "I'll do anything you ask, but you have to ask" treatment, I think.
(no subject)
Date: 1/27/08 02:55 am (UTC)Um, I don't suppose that I could get a link to that fic? :D
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Date: 1/27/08 03:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 1/31/08 04:41 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 06:21 am (UTC)I don't know that I'd say I like a lot of talking during sex, but man, when a scene is punctuated in the right places with appropriate orders/pleas/demands ... yeah, that works.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 09:34 am (UTC)I think one of the things I like about dirty talk is that it requires a certain breaking of inhibition -- which means either a really high level of arousal or a really high level of trust, or both.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 09:33 am (UTC)One quote, since if I start trying to list more I'll cut-and-paste the entire story:
"You're going to have to stop now," he said through gritted teeth, marveling at his use of a complete sentence.
"Why?"
"Because I'm going to come in your mouth in about three seconds." Just saying the words pushed him that much closer to the edge, and he felt a tightening at the base of his cock.
"Wouldn't you like that? Coming in my mouth?"
"I-" Sirius swallowed a groan at the effort not to grip Snape's head and tilt it back, holding it steady while he buried himself in it. "I don't think that's what you want."
"You're very certain about what I want tonight, aren't you?"
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:43 pm (UTC)a couple long, hot bits
Date: 8/28/04 11:32 am (UTC)And from Grail's "Local Call" (http://smallville.slashdom.com/archive/6/localcall.html):
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:44 pm (UTC)First one not so much -- I mean, I can totally buy that Lex would say something like that; I can buy Lex saying almost anything. But for some reason it doesn't excite me to hear him saying it. Maybe because it seems to me there's a sort of aggressive undercurrent there?
(no subject)
Date: 8/31/04 03:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 11:43 am (UTC)I've never read many of these. Rest assured that now I shall. *g*
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:45 pm (UTC)please, sir: I want some more!
Date: 8/28/04 12:38 pm (UTC)During filming. Elijah smokes. Dom makes him. In both senses of the word. Non-con masturbatory sex, and addiction.
The two lines that never leave me are: "Dom, don't-I promised Wardrobe..."
and "'Smoke,' said Dom." (That being the last line, and a chillier one may never have been written.
I know it was in a newsletter at one point when slash was more a list thing than sites, and someone must have it, or can persuade her to turn it loose again.
(no subject)
Date: 8/28/04 07:46 pm (UTC)Re: please, sir: I want some more!
Date: 8/28/04 08:17 pm (UTC)This is the Disclaimer page, "Addiction" is the 2nd one down on the fiction page.
Re: please, sir: I want some more!
Date: 8/29/04 09:46 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/29/04 02:12 am (UTC)That PING you heard was my kinkometer being quite resoundingly certain it had found the motherlode. I love my articulate snark monsters, so when they're so hot they can't form phrases, I'm a happy reader. To wit: Repechage, oh yes indeed. No one brings the grit-teethed good like Fabula, although I'm hoping this list will change my mind. That "rough cant" line may just pull me into Clex. *goes willingly*
(no subject)
Date: 9/6/04 10:50 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/29/04 06:10 pm (UTC)"Oh, God," Lex moans, feeling hapless and dizzy, like Chloe after her ride on the Clark Kent roller coaster. "Clark. I don't even know, I don't have the words. Fuck. You're incredible." One of Clark's legs is between his, and Lex settles in and drags his erection hard against one long denim-clad thigh. Tosses his head back at the sweet burn. Clark's hands fumble at his face, flutter at his shoulders. Not just brushing against him but gripping him now, occasionally. Just brief flexes of those fingers like steel, but still. Better. "Oh, yeah. Jesus. Clark, just like that... your hands, Christ that's good. Uh. By the way," Lex grinds out, eyes closed, "I tend to talk a lot. In bed. In the past, that's sometimes been considered a bit annoying--"
"Huh?" Clark gasps. "No. No. God, Lex, your voice..."
by Livia http://www.debchan.com/livia/smallville/twenty-one.htm
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Date: 5/4/05 10:20 am (UTC)*squints* ice-cream cone and hand and arm - but female torso behind that? And knees in front? Are there two people in your vanilla icon?
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Date: 5/5/05 06:13 pm (UTC)