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Additional notes to young writers who saw Cobra Kai and got sucked into Karate Kid and are now trying to set stories in the foreign country that is 1985:

- The shorts were that short. It was normal. Men were allowed to have thighs in the '80s.

- The hair was that clean and shiny. It was normal. On TV even scary criminal types all looked like their hairdryers were still warm.

- "Thirsty" and "the D" didn't have any slang meaning then, and they wouldn't have made anybody laugh.

- Wikipedia says the phrase "safe sex" was being used as early as '84, but it wasn't really mainstream; condoms were generally thought of as birth control. Most of them were unlubricated and really, really dry. They'd suck all the moisture out of your Parts. I was 21 in 1985 and was unaware of the whole concept of lube, though I was familiar with spermicidal gel.

- No internet meant that it was difficult and embarrassing to get hold of porn, so a lot of people had just never seen any. No internet also meant teens went around believing some things about sex that were really spectacularly wrong.

- Spandex wasn't common except in leotards. Jeans had no stretch, zero. So they were loose enough in the leg that when you unfastened them, they pretty much just fell to the ground.

- Earphones were little sponge-covered things the size of Oreos strung on a length-adjustable arc of metal. They neither went into the ear nor fully covered the ear. They really didn't block outside sound at all unless you had the music turned up as high as it would go.

- You can go right on imagining these guys in boxer-briefs if you like, but I promise you they were wearing white Jockeys.

Edited to add a link to [personal profile] feklar42's addition on the subject of consent and date rape, which is an area where attitudes were very different in 1985.

Re: Hee hee!

Date: 6/14/21 02:03 pm (UTC)
sara: S (Default)
From: [personal profile] sara
No, no, there was nobody out at my school, either. We knew lesbians existed but it was mostly a thing you'd say to insult somebody, not a thing anyone really WAS.

And everyone knew like one gay man.

I knew about lube but I hung out with a gal who was a Planned Parenthood peer educator.

Re: Hee hee!

Date: 6/14/21 02:24 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
I think that issue simply depends on the school. I was in a graduating class of 500+ and I now know of two other lesbians and two gay men whom I knew personally and interacted with in a friendly manner... and none of us were out in high school. I suspect none of us knew in high school? But maybe that's just me. But I graduated from public high school in Alabama in 2001. It was definitely not a conducive place. I'm sure there were a slightly higher rate of out teens in the same year in socal, or hippie liberal enclaves in New England perhaps, or in smaller and more nurturing schools or communities.

Re: Hee hee!

Date: 6/14/21 02:29 pm (UTC)
sara: S (Default)
From: [personal profile] sara
And you're about ten years younger than I am. The 90s were quite different.

Re: Hee hee!

Date: 6/14/21 07:12 pm (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
My class of about 300 in '98 in Alaska had three (3) Out queer kids in school:
* Gerald, one year above me, gay
* the diabetic karate lesbian
* me, the bisexual

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